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it was a prerogative, the exercise of which it was the duty of that House to examine. With respect to the conduct of captain Gawler, in refusing to erase his name from the society alluded to, in compliance with the imperious orders of a number of officers, all of whom were inferior to himself, except one of them, he must say, that to make such a circumstance the foundation of dismission was against all the principles of military distinctions, against the principles of justice, and highly injurious to the service, When he saw a meritorious gentleman dismissed the service in this way, without a reason, it gave him great concern. He said again, this gentleman ought to have had a court martial; but although ministers had not assigned a reason for dismissing these officers, he would venture to say what were not the reasons for dismissing this gentleman. They did not dismiss them for want of an honourable character. No! caprice, founded upon political topics, was the sole reason. With regard to lord Edward Fitzgerald, his abilities and cou-vernment for what they had done. He rage have been tried; and he had acquitted himself to his honour, and to the satisfaction of the public, and of his most sanguine friends. Captain Gawler, too, had more than once signalised himself in the service.

plied to for a subscription for Poland, he confessed that his heart was engaged in her favour; every thing that could move his affections pleaded in favour of Poland; but doubting so much on the point of propriety, he hesitated, and finally declined subscribing. He took notice of the case of captain Gawler. He belonged to a society, called a Society for Constitutional Information: there was no imputation upon captain Gawler for being a member of this society at first, because the professions of its founders were harmless; but it had long since changed its original character, and now its members held open correspondence with certain societies in France, for the express purpose of altering the constitution of this country; citizen Joel Barlow, citizen John Adams, and citizen Frost, were engaged in this correspondence. He saw no rea son why one of his majesty's officers should object to erasing his name from such a society. Upon all these conside-· rations, he was not ready to blame go

Mr. Burke entered into the nature of the king's prerogative to dismiss any of his officers without assigning a reason for it. It was a power wisely given to his majesty by the constitution, and was not to be called in question. He admitted the exercise of it might be abused, and when that was the case, that House ought to interfere; but he did not think it so in the present instance. He took notice of what Mr. Fox had said with respect to "the probability of a war with a foreign power, in which case we should be armed." Here he agreed with Mr. Fox; but with respect to the other part, where he said he thought "we might build on tranquillity at home," he differed from him widely, and observed, that he never knew an armament that was not applicable to both. He thought the conduct of these officers highly improper and unconstitutional; for so appeared to him the raising of money by individuals, without the direction or consent of the king, and without the interference of parliament, and to support a war against a power with whom we were actually in alliance. So forcibly did these points strike him, that, when he was ap+

thought that government should judge of the conduct of its military officers by its own discretion, in the same way as a jury judged of the tendency of a seditious libel: just as a jury decided in the case of libels, so should the crown of the conduct of its officers.

Here the conversation dropped.

Debate in the Commons on the Alien Bill.] Dec. 28. On the order of the day for the second reading of the Alien Bill,

Mr. Secretary Dundas rose to state the objects of it. He observed, that so very great and extraordinary an influx of foreigners into this country must, at any time, have called for the attention of government, and rendered some measures on their part necessary. That attention was still more requisite, and the necessity of adopting some particular measures was still more urgent, when it was considered that this influx of foreigners had come from a country which had lately been the scene of very extraordinary transactions; where their constitution had been overthrown, and acts of the most dreadful enormity had been perpetrated. In these transactions a very great number of the people, either from compulsion or inclination, had taken an active part. It was likewise to be considered, that the revolution which had been brought about was not confined to the country where it had

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lar regulations of the bill, which he hoped would, in the present circumstances, be considered necessary to the safety of the state, and not giving a power to the executive government greater than the occasion justified. He had only one circumstance more to mention. If he was called upon to state the grounds upon which he had founded his allegations, he would decline entering into any detail, and appeal to the general sense of the House to determine how far they were well founded. As this bill was grounded on suspicion, and authorized the executive government to act upon that principle, it would be impossible, with any degree of propriety, to lay open the particular sources of information.

first originated, that it affected the whole of Europe, and was connected with principles which were directed against every government. It became, then, a matter of serious attention, if the foreigners who had come into this country were influenced by those principles; and it was his duty not to conceal from the House, that many of those who had fled from their own country had been engaged in those very transactions of cruelty and outrage which, he was confident, no one would defend. And this was not all: it became matter of still more serious consideration, since there had been found men in this country so infatuated as to adopt those very principles which, in the country where they originated, had overthrown the constitution, and which were inimical Sir Gilbert Elliot said, that it was alto every government. There existed ways with extreme reluctance that he likewise those, in the acting government rose to speak, from a consciousness of his of that neighbouring country, who en- own incapacity to claim the attention of couraged the addresses of the discon- that House. The reluctance, however, tented and disaffected in this against our which he now particularly felt, arose from constitution, and who published decrees a different cause-a cause, namely, a diftending to favour their views, and flatter ference of opinion between himself and them with hopes of support. When he some honourable friends whom he highly had stated these circumstances, he trusted respected and esteemed. This difference that it would not be thought that there of opinion, he trusted, however, would not was not sufficient ground for some degree affect their private friendship, which, he of caution in the present moment. If it hoped, would ever remain unaltered. was allowed that there was ground for This sentiment he was more particularly some measures to be taken, it would then led to express, as he had received disonly remain to be determined how far the tinguished marks of friendship from one proposed measures were too strong or too right hon. gentleman (Mr. Fox), with excessive. He then briefly stated the whom he was now compelled to express several clauses of the bill. It was in his difference in opinion. On this octended in the first instance, to make all casion he felt himself prompted by foreigners, arriving in the kingdom, give duty to declare, that since the close. an account of themselves; to make them of last session he had felt much regret give up such arms as they might have in from what had been said by that right their possession; he did not mean such hon. gentleman. The views which he enarms as were natural for gentlemen to tertained of the present situation of affairs wear, but such as might naturally excite were not only widely different from his suspicion against the owners. It was also own, but the means which he proposed to intended, that, in their several removals be pursued for the public welfare were through the country, they should use such as appeared to him to be even of an passports, by which their actual residence opposite tendency. This difference of or occasional movements, might be noto- opinion was not respecting a particular rious. For the same reason it was also measure, so as to afford him a hope that intended to distribute those who received they might again reconcile their difference support into certain districts, where also of sentiment, and be able to act together they would be more liable to the cogni--it was a difference of such a nature as zance of the civil power. Finally, it was proposed to pay particular attention to those foreigners who have come within the present year, or who may hereafter come without obvious reasons, and thus be rendered more liable to suspicion. He then entered into a detail of the particu

to affect their whole turn of thinking, and rendered their views respecting the mode of conduct which ought to be adopted in the present crisis diametrically opposite. He considered it as the duty of every man to stand forward in support of his majesty's government, and thus to

maintain the constitution, and to save the country. This difference of sentiment he should have felt still more painful, if, in avowing it, he had been compelled to stand alone. He trusted, however, that his sense of duty, and his regard for the public welfare, would have enabled him even to stand alone upon such an occasion, and would have supported him under all the uneasiness of such a situation; but he was happy he did not stand alone. He spoke the same sentiments with many other honourable friends with whom he had been accustomed to act, and who still continued to act, upon their ancient principles, and under their ancient leader (the duke of Portland)-that illustrious personage whose character was so highly respected, and whose sentiments could never fail to have the greatest weight. The present bill met with his hearty and entire approbation, not on account of any particular facts which had been alleged, but on account of the general situation of the country. He considered it as an accession of power to the crown, which was justified by the existing circumstances. It was, in his opinion, the character of a free government to grant extraordinary power in extraordinary emergencies. If this extraordinary power was at all times to be possessed by the crown, its power would be too great for a free government; and if it was not to be granted when it was necessary, its power would be too small.

Mr. Fox said, that in whatever political difference of opinion he felt himself with reference to his friends, he would venture to say, that in all discussions of such opinions he had never suffered the political difference to interfere with his private friendships; yet he did feel some reason to complain, that all the private friendship and esteem professed for him by the hon. baronet should not have induced the hon. baronet to state to him such political difference of opinion as he now said had existed so long, or that this should be the first occasion he had to suspect the least difference of opinion between the hon. baronet and himself. The hon. baronet now said, that so long ago as the last session of parliament he had reason to differ in opinion from him, and now declared a general disapprobation of his political conduct. Till now he had never understood that there was, among those with whom he had been accustomed to act, a general difference of opinion from him, and a dis[VOL. XXX. ]

position to support the present administration. He would call no man to account for his conduct; but he would say, that they had given him the most distinct assurances that there was nothing which made them more unwilling than they were formerly; that they had expressed no disinclination to follow the same plan they had before adopted. He had indeed, on the first day of the session, seen gentlemen go out into the lobby whom he could have wished to have staid in the House; he had heard an hon. friend of his (Mr. Windham) speak with that powerful eloquence which always distinguished him, against what appeared to him to be the right and just course of proceeding, and he had heard him with pain; but he saw no such difference of opinion as made it impossible for those gentlemen, or his hon. friend, to preserve that connexion in which they had acted so long.-With respect to himself, all he could say was, that he was as much devoted to that connexion as any gentleman in that House; as any man of honourable and independent feelings could be. He said also, it was the pride of his heart to think, that the union and exertions of that connexion had kept alive every thing that deserved the name of the spirit of liberty in this country. He wished not to call to mind particular expressions; but he could not but recollect, that the difference between those with whom he had acted, and the present ministry, was formerly called fundamental and irreconcileable; and he did believe that this sentiment did still pervade the majority of them. Whether his opinion was or was not consonant with the opinion of that majority he did not know: but this he knew, that the cause of his country would not suffer him to say he could support an administration which stood upon the grounds of the present, upon grounds not warranted by the constitution. He had heard in this and other places, that the present administration ought to be systematically supported at all events in the present situation of affairs. He blamed not those who said so; but, with regard to himself and those who eatertained that opinion, union and co-operation were at an end. He had not heard the hon. baronet say so much; for he was sure, that if the hon. baronet had done so, he could not have added that he concur red in sentiment with the illustrious characters to whom he had alluded. The hon. baronet had alluded to a noble person (the duke of Portland) so much esteemed [N]

who had condemned his former friends to banishment in Sinope, it might have been expected, considering the desolateness and sterility of the land, would have paused, would have thought that a sufficient punishment: but he had not done so. All that he could say was, that nothing should be wanting on his part, nothing that was yielding or complying, nothing that was conciliating or friendly, no submission that friendship and old habits of intimacy could suggest, that he should not be ready to enter into, if, in his opinion, it could operate for the public good. Upon the present bill, as nothing had been alleged that could justify the principle, which he had no hope of opposing with success, and as it contained many provisions that could be better debated in a committee than in any other stage, he should reserve what he had to say until it came to that stage.

- Mr. Burke said, that although party connexions were extremely proper for mutual arrangement in private, and convenience of public business, they were seldom fit to become the subject of public debate. No man was more unfit than he was to enter into any discussion of the state of parties. To talk of parties was, he remarked, a matter of particular delicacy, as the confidence of private friendship was often so much intermixed with public duty, that the transaction of

by him, that he could not express what he felt in speaking of him; a nobleman with whom he had lived seventeen years on terms of friendship, and for ten of those seventeen had been in habits of the great est intimacy and affection; and he would venture to say that he esteemed him at least as much as the hon. baronet. He could not bring himself to believe that that nobleman entertained the opinion professed by the hon. baronet; for he had heard that that nobleman, in giving his support to the present bill, had expressly declared that he could not forget the manner in which the present administration came into power, and that great part of the difficulties in which the country was now involved was owing to their misconduct. He therefore believed that no essential difference existed between that noble person and himself.-If differences did arise from doubts that were entertained, he asked only for a fair discussion, that it might be distinctly known wherein it was they differed. He firmly believed, that on all the principles of liberty, they not only agreed in motives but in actions; that they agreed in every thing except the bill. He disapproved of this bill, and they approved-which was all the difference of which he knew. But as to other differences (and he was conscious of no other), that subject must be farther discussed, and better understood between them. He had long acted, and he wished to continue to act, with cha-parties required a sort of sanctity which racters whom he esteemed and loved; but if he should be driven, which God forbid! to the situation of acting without, or even against those characters, he hoped and trusted he should have sense enough to discern his duty, and fortitude to perform it. Painful as such a separation would be to him, and requiring as it would do his utmost fortitude to bear, he must then consider whether he should act alone, or not act at all. He trusted, however, he should act according to his own sense of duty, if he was compelled to do the one or the other. If, on the other hand, the difference on the present bill should be the only material difference between them, they might still act in conjunction, as they had formerly done, and he hoped that all attempts, to magnify accidental differences, while they agreed on one general principle, would fail of their effect. There were other persons from whom he expected an entire difference on certain questions, and he had not been deceived. The right hon. gentleman (Mr. Burke),

precluded any disclosure. This delicacy was particularly increased, when friends, who loved and esteemed one another, were compelled, in consequence of a difference of opinion, to pull different ways and felt all the distraction natural to virtuous minds in such a situation. If he might be allowed to talk of himself, he might state, that ever since he came into parliament, his doors had been open to all; none had been refused admittance, though the practice had been attended with much inconvenience to himself. To the allusion about Sinope, he had nothing to an swer. The phalanx had sent him, not to Sinope, but in the common phrase, to Coventry. What endeavours had been used to make him odious to the public, and to his private friends, all the world knew. Yet this Sinopian, this dog of Athens, had not barked from his tub. He had violated no principle, he had betrayed no secret, he had not attempted to come between the resolution and the act; and farther he had not to say. With regard

to the noble person (the duke of Portland), in whom the public had a great interest, he should say nothing of his just character. The right hon. gentleman said he had known him for sixteen years: he had known him for twenty-seven; and if, for obvious reasons, they had not lately acted much together, he could say, that their friendship, if not improved, was not impaired. The public had a very great interest in the character of that noble person; his public virtues, the moderation of his sentiments, and the temperance of his private life, had made an impression which would not easily be obliterated.

To the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Fox) he owed much for instruction, for improvement, and example; but the moment he saw him countenancing the proceedings in France, and approving their principles, no public connexion could subsist between them, because they differed systematically and fundamentally. He must say, that any person who had seen the French business in the bud, and who now saw it full blown and nurtured, and yet still wished to maintain any connexion between France and this country, must, in every respect, meet with his entire disapprobation. On the present occasion, those who wished to support government, must support it systematically. If it should be requisite to carry on a war, where could a systematical support be more necessary? War was itself a system, and for his part he had made up his mind not to give to ministers a layer of support and a layer of opposition, but to support them systematically. Any other support would be treacherous, as it would only be given to a particular measure by those who, at the same time, were endeavouring to undermine the general credit and character of ministry. If the present state of affairs was such as to threaten not only this country but Europe, with most serious dangers, it was necessary, in order to avert those dangers, to adopt a system. The present bill was itself a strong proof of such a state of affairs, as it originated from circumstances which rendered it necessary to give additional power to the executive government. The strong measure which ministers had been obliged to adopt sufficiently proved the exigence of the crisis; and the bill itself formed part of a systematical support. For his part, he gave credit to ministers for not meaning to betray their master,

for not joining with foreign and domestic factions to subvert the constitution. He gave them credit for knowing more facts, from the opportunities afforded by their official situation, than those who had not the same advantage; and therefore he believed, that in the information which they had given of the danger of the country, they had not put upon the House a designed imposition. He would not say that he could not find other ministers more agreeable to his inclination: he should wish to see that noble personage whom he had mentioned occupy a distinguished situation in the ministry; but he doubted whether any minister could be found more in the confidence of the crown; which, in the present moment, he considered as a very material point. In a time of war, it was likewise very necessary that ministers should be supported by the House of Commons, and possess the confidence of the people; two advantages which the present ministry enjoyed in a very eminent degree. In speaking of the necessity of pursuing a system upon the present occasion, he would remark, that no country had ever acted so much upon a system as that which we were now called upon to oppose. He would hear speak of two great characters, both of the most distinguished abilities, one of whom (Mr. Fox), as having been twice secretary of state for foreign affairs, had a claim to the character of a statesman, and would certainly have proved himself a great one, even if he had never been placed in any official situation. The subject upon which that right hon. gentleman had said much, was France, which had lately appeared in a new and dangerous light; and on this subject he had certainly made use of a language very different from the policy of our forefathers. France had always been considered as the natural enemy of this country; it was the only nation from which we had any thing to fear, and in this point of view was always to be considered as an object of jealousy and precaution. It was the former policy of this country to maintain a balance of power in opposition to France. With this view it was that they made the old alliance with the House of Burgundy, to which formerly belonged the seventeen provinces which at present form the republic of the United provinces, and the Austrian Netherlands. With these provinces, in whatever hands they were, it had been invariably the policy of England to be ccn

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