3. Resolved, That the said application be sanctioned. 4. Resolved, That it appears by the Army Appropriation Account, for the year ended the 31st March 1880, that the balances unexpended in respect of certain Votes for Army Services for the said year, amounting to the sum of £232,036 8s. 4d., were as follows, viz. :£ 8. d. Vote 3. Administration of Vote 5. Militia Pay and Al- Vote 6. Yeomanry Cavalry 1,091 17 1 23,860 9 7 1,962 12 10 30,895 15 6 16,204 17 10 5,865 13 5 8,253 15 2 £232,036 8 4 Vote 17. Rewards for distin guished Services, &c. Vote 20. Widows' Pensions, &c. Vote 21. Pensions for Wounds Vote 23. Out Pensions. Amounts written off as irrecoverable. 4,836 1 0 184 2 4 8,077 15 1,743 8 7 52,900 19 3 606 15 10 £3,247,471 19 7. Resolved, That the said application be sanctioned. MR. ARTHUR O'CONNOR wished to point out that under Vote 10 of the Navy Estimates for the year 1879-80, there was a sum not not required of £64,700, under Section 1, for Naval Stores, and of £58,000 for Steam Machinery, besides £20,000, under Vote 11, for New Works and Repairs. He wished to call attention to the fact, because tomorrow, or at a very early date, the House would be called upon to pass similar Votes in the present year's Navy Estimates, and he thought it ought to be borne in mind that last year more money had been voted than was actually required. He also wished to point out that in regard to the Army Votes-on Vote 10, for Provisions, Forage, Fuel, &c.-there had been a sum voted in excess of the sum actually required of no less than £2,000,000. The Vote was a very large one, and it had been enormously exceeded; and when the right hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for War proposed to take Vote 10 this year, at I o'clock in the morning, hon. Members were thought very unreasonable because they objected to proceeding with such an important Vote at such an hour. He thought the fact of the existence of these excesses fully justified the position then taken by hon. Mem bers. LORD FREDERICK CAVENDISH thought the hon. Member should remember that the excesses had connection with the war in South Africa. Resolutions to be reported To-morrow. SOLENT NAVIGATION BILL.-[BILL 207.] COMMITTEE. Order for Committee read. Notice of opposition, and it was, therefore, impossible to proceed with the Bill, and he would move the discharge of the Order for considering it in Committee. Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Order for going into Committee upon the said Bill be discharged." MR. EVELYN ASHLEY, in moving that the Order for going into Commit-(Mr. Attorney General.) tee on the Bill be discharged, said, the House must not be alarmed, be cause it was merely a formal matter. The Examiners of Standing Orders had reported that the Standing Orders had not been complied with, and that the Bill, though virtually a Public Bill, was in reality a Hybrid Bill, and ought to be considered upstairs by a Hybrid Committee, nominated partly by the House and partly by the Committee of Selection. Motion made, and Question, "That the Order for going into Committee upon the said Bill be discharged," (Mr. Evelyn Ashley,)-put, and agreed to. Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Bill be referred to a Select Committee, consisting of Five Members, Three to be nominated by the House, and Two by the Committee of Selection.' -(Mr. Evelyn Ashley.) MR. T. P. O'CONNOR said, he would gladly take off his Notice of opposition to the Bill if the hon. and learned Gentleman the Attorney General would accept his (Mr. T. P. O'Connor's) grounds of objection to it. HENRY JAMES) said, he could not make any conditions, and must, therefore, press the discharge of the Order. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL (Sir MR. ARTHUR O'CONNOR said, the course taken in this case showed the im propriety of putting up a Member of the Government to block the Bills of independent Members. If a Bill of the hon. Member for Galway (Mr. T. P. O'Connor) had not been blocked by the hon. Member for Bath (Sir Arthur Hayter), the hon. Member would not have blocked the present Bill. MR. T. P. O'CONNOR felt that he had been very badly treated by the Government, and he had no doubt that the hon. and learned Attorney General would agree with him that he was justified, under the circumstances, in the course MR. EVELYN ASHLEY replied in he had taken. He simply wished now MR. HEALY asked if it was intended to proceed further with the Bill in the present Session ? the affirmative. Question put, and agreed to. Ordered, That all Petitions against the Bill be referred to the Committee. Ordered, That Petitioners praying to be heard by Counsel or Agents be heard against the Bill, and that Counsel be heard in support of the Bill. Ordered, That the Committee have power to send for persons, papers, and records:-Three to be the quorum. STATUTE LAW REVISION AND CIVIL PROCEDURE BILL.-[Lords.]—[BILL 219.] (Mr. Attorney General.) COMMITTEE. Order for Committee read. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL (Sir HENRY JAMES) said, he very much regretted to have to move that the Order be discharged. The hon. Member for Galway (Mr. T. P. O'Connor) had given to explain his reasons for taking that course. MR. SPEAKER: I must remind the hon. Member (Mr. T. P. O'Connor) that at present there is no Question before the House other than the discharge of the Order. MR. T. P. O'CONNOR said, he would take off the block against the Bill. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL (Sir HENRY JAMES): Then I will withdraw my Motion for the discharge of the Order, and fix the Committee for to-morrow. Motion, by leave, withdrawn. POLLEN FISHING (IRELAND) BILL. THE SOLICITOR GENERAL FOR IRELAND (Mr. W. M. JOHNSON) hoped the House would allow the Bill to be close season for salmon had commenced. read a second time. Pollen was a fresh- This was a serious hardship to an inwater herring, peculiar to Lough Neagh, dustrious class of fishermen, which it was and in season up to the 1st November. the object of the present Bill to remedy, Between 300 and 400 persons lived and to enable pollen to be captured mainly by this fishing, and as the salmon during the salmon close time and when and trout season closed much earlier the pollen was in season. Inspectors of Fisheries, up to last year, made separate orders for the close season for salmon and trout and for the close season for pollen; but it had now been found that under the existing law such separate orders could not lawfully be made, and that there could only be the same close season for salmon and trout and for pollen. The consequence of this was that although pollen were in season they could not be captured after the Motion made, and Question, "That the Bill be now read a second time,”. (Mr. Solicitor General for Ireland,)—put, and agreed to. Bill read a second time, and committed for To-morrow. House adjourned at a quarter before Three o'clock. VOL. CCLXIV. [THIRD SERIES.] 3 T [INDEX. INDEX ΤΟ HANSARD'S PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES, VOLUME CCLXIV. EIGHTH VOLUME OF SESSION 1881. EXPLANATION OF THE ABBREVIATIONS. In Bills, Read 1o, 2o, 3o, or 1a, 2a, 3a, Read the First, Second, or Third Time.-In Speeches When in this Index a* is added to the Reading of a Bill, it indicates that no Debate took When in the Text or in the Index a Speech is marked thus, it indicates that the Speech When in the Index af is prefixed to a Name or an Office (the Member having accepted or - Some subjects of debate have been classified under the following "General Headings:". - -- - Afghanistan MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS Defeat of the Ameer's Forces, Questions, Sir British Assistance to the Ameer, Question, Sir Ilenry Tyler; Answer, The Marquess of Military Operations, Question, Mr. O'Donnell ; Candahar, Questions, Lord George Hamilton, 3 U |